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Armando
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Gearbox: Unidentified Ring

Post by Armando » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:15 am

Chaps - when I removed the bell-housing for repair a while back, I found the following (broken) item stuck to the magnetic sump plug on the gearbox......
Broken ring (cleaned) found at sump plug
Broken ring (cleaned) found at sump plug
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Any idea what function it served and whether or not it requires replacement?

I can still select all the gears.

Thanks.

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Re: Gearbox: Unidentified Ring

Post by Armando » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:25 pm

Just to clarify..... The 'ring' was found inside the bottom of the gearbox (stuck to the drain plug) and it has a D cross section (if that helps!).

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Re: Gearbox: Unidentified Ring

Post by callum » Mon Jul 27, 2015 3:56 pm

Armando,
That's a syncho circlip/ring. If your box has synchro on 2nd, 3rd and 4th then it may be a 'spare' that someone's not taken out after a repalcement has been fitted.

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Re: Gearbox: Unidentified Ring

Post by Ken Hanna » Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:27 am

Armando,
when you say that it's still possible to select all of the gears, is that 'on the move' and if so, is there any 'crunching' when engaging gear?
When a synchro clip fails in this manner, it's usually either 2nd or 3rd gear which is the culprit and a full stripdown is required to replace it.

At least it didn't get caught up between the pinions, which does happen and can cause damage to the teeth...

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Re: Gearbox: Unidentified Ring

Post by Armando » Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:02 am

Thanks Callum and Ken - I did wonder about the synchro, but wasn't sure what the rings would do - looks like they act as tension springs......

It's the original 1982 gearbox with approximately 55K miles on it. I can easily select gears when static. On the move I have no idea. I checked with Pete Sparrow (who supplied the donor) - he only drove it around the yard in 1st gear due to lack of brakes :lol: , so it is effectively an unknown quantity.

I suppose if this, the original, clip failed, it would have been found when/if a new one was fitted? Unless it was fitted in situ?

I'll have a close look at the crown wheel and pinions to see if the teeth are damaged.

Does a gearbox strip (to replace the rings) require specialist tools? Maybe it's a Rick Pembro job?

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Re: Gearbox: Unidentified Ring

Post by Ken Hanna » Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:17 pm

Armando,
if it had been caught up in the workings of the gearbox, it would look very different from how it appears in your photograph, so no worries on that front. ;)
However, fitting a replacement clip does require a stripdown, during which it makes sense to replace the other two synchromesh clips, plus (most of) the bearings in the gearbox.

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Re: Gearbox: Unidentified Ring

Post by Armando » Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:34 pm

Thanks, Ken.

Spoke with Rick P today - it'll be on its way to him this weekend for the full treatment.

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