Wire Wheels

QFAD · Post by **QFAD** » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:24 pm

Bill,

That is an excellent link - lots of really useful information.

I considered converting the rear wheel on the 223, but it works out quite expensive, especially if you include a second wire wheel for a spare!
Also as Ian notes, it would be a tight fit removing off the spines... How did you get on with fitting a rear wire wheel?

I settled for a shiny stainless steel hub cap instead

Steve

hutchii · Post by **hutchii** » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:34 pm

Hello Steve.
The issue of fitting a wire 3rd wheel was available to me because of the job lot of wheels I got. However, the cost getting 2 more wheels powder coated (one as a spare) an additional splined adaptor, another 2 tyres (mine are 135s because a 125, in my opinion looked a bit ‘odd’ on the wire) was prohibiting at the time. Whether a wire wheel could or couldn’t be fitted to the rear only came up in conversation at Kent Kit Car Club meeting one evening with John Nash (a former CSC member and 223 builder) I’ve never tried to see if it would fit. My spare is a normal steel wheel which in itself looks a bit odd because it’s on the usual bracket on the near side of the car, right next to a wire. If I get a flat at the front I’ll have to remove the splined hub as well! That will be fun because as well at peening the shorten studs, I applied a generous dose of Loctite 638 when I fitted the adapters

QFAD · Post by **QFAD** » Thu Sep 05, 2019 12:33 pm

Ian,

Perhaps a spare wheel cover may be a solution to your 'aesthetic' issues

- maybe to match your seats/tonneau cover?

Well that's my plan as my spare is a std 2CV wheel - the thinking being it is most likely the rear wheel will be the one to get a puncture.
The front tyres are fitted with tubes and filled with specific tube sealant. I also carry an emergency can of Holts Tyreweld (water soluble) and an electric pump.

For longer trips away from home I carry a spare tubes, tyre levers & rim protectors and 6" G Clamp (bead breaker) - previously to the Lomax I have always fitted my own motorcycle tyres.... but of course if there is a convenient garage with a machine to do the job happy days!

namster · Post by **namster** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 5:14 pm

For anyone who may be interested, I designed an adaptor for fitting an Austin 7 3 stud wheel.

There are 3x pressed in bosses to accept the key holes on the A7 wheels used to locate and lock them in place. My first batch seem to have been a success so I'm gauging interest in a second batch. I already have some interest, but will need more to bring costs down.

I had a batch of 10 made last time by a machine shop in Lithuania at a cost of around £90/adaptor.

They are sustantially lighter than the MWS adaptors and the wheels are also a lot lighter and look the biz.

More info can be seen on the pembleton EPAG article here...

https://thepembleton.org.uk/ePAG/ePAG68/niall8.shtml

All the best,
Niall

howardjs · Post by **howardjs** » Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:39 pm

Hi Niall, Soz but link not working, a typo perhaps?
Howard

whitelomax · Post by **whitelomax** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:09 pm

I don't know if this is true, but I did hear that Lomax used wire wheels intended for the Austin-Healey 3000. It might be worth checking out.

namster · Post by **namster** » Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:24 am

I think it likely that the wheels used are the ones from the Austin Healey 100/4, which originally came with 42 spoke 15"×4 wheels (the same as an MGA).

The 3000 is a much bigger, heavier, more powerful car that came with (I think) 72 spoke 15"×5 wheels.

howardjs · Post by **howardjs** » Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:39 am

A pretty comprehensive list here at MWS Ltd.
https://www.mwsint.com/custom/FitmentGu ... &Find.y=20

Howard

billp · Post by **billp** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:21 pm

When I bought my 223 I decided to fit wires and MWS sell adapter plates and wheels - the MGA ones are the ones to use. I bought four wheels and tyres and three adapter plates. Fitting the fronts was easily enough after a fight with getting the mudguards to cover the wheels which mount about an inch wider out than the Citroen wheels. Then I replaced the spare with a new wire, so that used up 3 of my new wheels.
When it came to the rear wheel I couldn't use it, as there was not enough room to get it in. Basically I had two options.
1. buy a wider twin wheel mudguard(as required in Holland where they need to mount two wheels on the back) to get the clearance, or
2. get another arm and get Bob to modify it with a shorter extension to mount the wheel.
I decided to go down the modified arm route and soon acquired a spare arm - all that needs now is the fitting of the shorter extension.
However, after discussing it a few times with other members, it was pointed out that I never carry a spare on my motorcycles and that it was a lot easier to take out a recovery policy, just in case of a rear wheel puncture. After all, who wants to fight it out under the back end trying to change a wheel, wire or Citroen type.
I must say that I'm still thinking about it, and the fourth wheel and hub adapter etc are waiting in my shed, just in case that one day I may bite the bullet.

Lomax76 · Post by **Lomax76** » Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:03 pm

I my opinion it is not a good idea to swap for a wire wheel for the reason that it will be difficult to put in place and remove there is I think not enough room in the mudguard even using a modify arm. It is already difficult with the normal wheel.
As the rear wheel is a tubeless maybe the use of an anti puncture sealant could be the solution?
In case you fit the wire wheel make sure that the fourth adapter plate is for the correct side must probably left side is it not?

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