Anti-roll bar

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Re: Anti-roll bar

Post by tomnorth » Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:54 pm

Hi
bought a Lomax 223 in bits and slowly putting it together. Am confused by the anti-roll bar and fittings that came with it (unassembled) it looks completely different to the ones in your pictures - the tapped bosses are welded onto the inside on mine so the only way to fit the bar is behind the steering axle. Is this correct???
Tom
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Re: Anti-roll bar

Post by Ken Hanna » Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:08 pm

Tom,
if you fit the damper mounting plates on their correct sides, things may become a little easier... ;)
p.s. It might also be worth checking the dampers which are mounted on the front, since they look like rear dampers, which are longer than front ones.
Ken

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Re: Anti-roll bar

Post by howardjs » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:07 pm

Hi Tom,
Here are a couple of photos taken many moons ago at Stoneleigh of the original Lomax demo with a cut away body tub.
Hope this clears up your roll bar fitting puzzle.
Howard
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Re: Anti-roll bar

Post by tomnorth » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:15 pm

Hi Ken and Howard
thanks for your messages. What I cannot understand is that the mounting plates that fit on the ends of the axle have the bosses welded on the inside edge rather than the front edge as per Howards photos and are handed i.e. cannot be swapped over.
Ken - what length are the dampers meant to be?
thanks
Tom

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Re: Anti-roll bar

Post by howardjs » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:59 am

As Ken says you have the damper mounting plates fitted to the wrong ends of the of the axle cross member, i.e. driver side mounting plate is on the passenger side and passenger side is on the driver side. In your photo it looks like the suspension arm is hanging down presumably the car is up on stands. when it is on its wheels all will be at the correct angle. The 3 tapped holes in the ends of the cross member tube are all at about 105mm centres on the same pcd so the plate will bolt on to either end.
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Re: Anti-roll bar

Post by tomnorth » Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:01 pm

Finally realised that this had all been reassembled incorrectly when I bought it. The end plates had been fitted incorrectly hence the issue with the dampers. I switched the plates in the correct position which revealed one rear damper on the front and one front damper........ However still not out of the woods........ the anti roll bar is now on the front BUT it fouls with the gearbox mount! Any thoughts?

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Re: Anti-roll bar

Post by cmwbob » Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:08 pm

When fitted correctly the offset in the centre of the roll bar should tuck neatly behind the gearbox. Note, the swing arm suspension travel will have a bearing on this as the angle changes.

Also as a note Lomax arb's are manufactured from tempered spring steel, hence the reason they are more expensive than some other options.

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Re: Anti-roll bar

Post by administrator » Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:59 am

Tom,
If the ARB is fouling the gearbox mount, check that the gearbox mount is the correct way round. I've come across a Dyane with an extra spacer (approx 6mm) fitted between the mount and the axle, with a similar size length taken out of the gearbox mounting 'tubes' to compensate.

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Re: Anti-roll bar

Post by tomnorth » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:06 pm

Still struggling to get the arb into a position where it is not fouling the gearbox mount. In the photos of the cutaway lomax the arb looks as if it should be behind the gearbox mount rather than neatly behind the gearbox - is this correct.
thanks
Tom

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